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		<title>By: Javanix</title>
		<link>http://embeddedgurus.com/area-0x51/2009/05/memory-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Javanix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are missing the point my friend.  As an engineer that claims fame to so many achievements on the field you should know that a company does not make the profits in the bulk but in the disposables.  That is no news to any of us and has been the case since the very first successful apparatus ever sold!Second, you are not telling &quot;all&quot; the story here.  With the analog cameras (aka as indicated above those requiring film) the actual cost per picture seen is well over $15 per picture.  Think about it, first you need the camera (most would had come with no film) then you need to buy the film rolls, load the roll in the camera -and hopefully you did this right because there was no second chances without loosing a frame or two- once you took the picture you needed to &quot;believe&quot; it was worth taken, after you finished with the roll you needed to wind it back -some manually some automatically- and put it back in its protective plastic storage until you had the time or quantity of rolls worth taken to the store to be developed -granted you were no pro with your very own developing &quot;dark&quot; room... and so and so on... at the end it was time wasted, money throw away and unconvincing to go through all that pain -unless you were one serious photographer and made a leaving from it, but uh, there was no digital cameras -leave aside the wonderful Polaroids- to allow instant gratification and &quot;cost&quot; saving approach to photography.  Bottom line, with today disposable digital cameras, one can take any photos any time, any where and see them instantly.  Uh, did I mention, you do not even have to worry about the embarrassment of taking questionably pictures to the local neighbor developing house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are missing the point my friend.  As an engineer that claims fame to so many achievements on the field you should know that a company does not make the profits in the bulk but in the disposables.  That is no news to any of us and has been the case since the very first successful apparatus ever sold!Second, you are not telling &quot;all&quot; the story here.  With the analog cameras (aka as indicated above those requiring film) the actual cost per picture seen is well over $15 per picture.  Think about it, first you need the camera (most would had come with no film) then you need to buy the film rolls, load the roll in the camera -and hopefully you did this right because there was no second chances without loosing a frame or two- once you took the picture you needed to &quot;believe&quot; it was worth taken, after you finished with the roll you needed to wind it back -some manually some automatically- and put it back in its protective plastic storage until you had the time or quantity of rolls worth taken to the store to be developed -granted you were no pro with your very own developing &quot;dark&quot; room&#8230; and so and so on&#8230; at the end it was time wasted, money throw away and unconvincing to go through all that pain -unless you were one serious photographer and made a leaving from it, but uh, there was no digital cameras -leave aside the wonderful Polaroids- to allow instant gratification and &quot;cost&quot; saving approach to photography.  Bottom line, with today disposable digital cameras, one can take any photos any time, any where and see them instantly.  Uh, did I mention, you do not even have to worry about the embarrassment of taking questionably pictures to the local neighbor developing house?</p>
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		<title>By: Arch's Blog</title>
		<link>http://embeddedgurus.com/area-0x51/2009/05/memory-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would imagine that most people&#039;s process for buying consumer products is like this. These products are very price sensitive.&quot;Really?  MOST PEOPLE?  Most people can&#039;t hook an ATSC receiver up to their TV.  Most people go to Best Buy and buy what the sales dweeb points them at, or the prettiest box.  The world doesn&#039;t buy the better mouse trap.&quot;The engineer in me would love to see the camera companies just give me 1 Gig of flash and get rid of the card socket altogether.&quot;Well, the Italian tourist in me sure wanted a pocket full of SD cards so I could shoot pictures (virtually) without limit by changing out 1 GB cards at my leisure to reduce risk to pictures taken resulting from camera death, camera loss, or some other unplanned &quot;disaster&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I would imagine that most people&#39;s process for buying consumer products is like this. These products are very price sensitive.&quot;Really?  MOST PEOPLE?  Most people can&#39;t hook an ATSC receiver up to their TV.  Most people go to Best Buy and buy what the sales dweeb points them at, or the prettiest box.  The world doesn&#39;t buy the better mouse trap.&quot;The engineer in me would love to see the camera companies just give me 1 Gig of flash and get rid of the card socket altogether.&quot;Well, the Italian tourist in me sure wanted a pocket full of SD cards so I could shoot pictures (virtually) without limit by changing out 1 GB cards at my leisure to reduce risk to pictures taken resulting from camera death, camera loss, or some other unplanned &quot;disaster&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://embeddedgurus.com/area-0x51/2009/05/memory-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 00:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I bought a digital camera, I --a. figured out an approximate price range I wanted to be in.b. found a specific product that best met my needs and wants in that price range.  (I happened to want nice optics, a good optical zoom range, a real rangefinder, and one that took standard SD cards but that isn&#039;t important.)c.  I then put that specific model number into Froogle (Google&#039;s product specific search engine) and bought it from the lowest price source.I would imagine that most people&#039;s process for buying consumer products is like this.  These products are very price sensitive.   The engineer in me would love to see the camera companies just give me 1 Gig of flash and get rid of the card socket altogether.  Even with endurance issues, I will almost guarantee you that the socket will die before a board mounted flash would.  That would put me in the minority, though - people are used to SD cards.  The photo kiosks at Wal-Mart and Target aren&#039;t set up to print my picutes with bluetooth, wi-fi, or USB - they use cards.  SD cards are portable across many devices.  And most importantly, my wife and oldest daughter are comfortable with the concept of working with SD cards.  So, while I would agree that more memory would be better, without a customer base demanding it, and with a customer base so price sensitive that it would punish the feature, it is unlikely that a manufacturer will respond to the need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I bought a digital camera, I &#8211;a. figured out an approximate price range I wanted to be in.b. found a specific product that best met my needs and wants in that price range.  (I happened to want nice optics, a good optical zoom range, a real rangefinder, and one that took standard SD cards but that isn&#8217;t important.)c.  I then put that specific model number into Froogle (Google&#8217;s product specific search engine) and bought it from the lowest price source.I would imagine that most people&#8217;s process for buying consumer products is like this.  These products are very price sensitive.   The engineer in me would love to see the camera companies just give me 1 Gig of flash and get rid of the card socket altogether.  Even with endurance issues, I will almost guarantee you that the socket will die before a board mounted flash would.  That would put me in the minority, though &#8211; people are used to SD cards.  The photo kiosks at Wal-Mart and Target aren&#8217;t set up to print my picutes with bluetooth, wi-fi, or USB &#8211; they use cards.  SD cards are portable across many devices.  And most importantly, my wife and oldest daughter are comfortable with the concept of working with SD cards.  So, while I would agree that more memory would be better, without a customer base demanding it, and with a customer base so price sensitive that it would punish the feature, it is unlikely that a manufacturer will respond to the need.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch's Blog</title>
		<link>http://embeddedgurus.com/area-0x51/2009/05/memory-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 05:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No film camera I ever bought came with the internal capacity to hold 12, 24, or 36 shots.  I had to add an external memory device to store pictures.  (It was an analog media called film, but the analogy is pretty exact.)If a camera&#039;s internal memory is the primary storage system, then the camera also has to come with a $1 USB cable (mini-A to A style?, 24 or 36 inches long).  And if you&#039;re planning to take your camera on a real vacation (say a trip that&#039;s important to your family) are you not going to want to take multiple flash cards with you to be sure you have plenty of space for all those photos the wife will want you to take of her?  8-)I don&#039;t mean to suggest that your entire point is wrong.  And usually buying extra at the point of sale is financially the wrong move so leaving the store without the card can be sold off after the fact as a smart move.But I&#039;d rather have the manufacturer toss in a 2 GB or 4 GB high speed flash card than have it built into the camera.PS: Name names.  Who made the camera?  What model is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No film camera I ever bought came with the internal capacity to hold 12, 24, or 36 shots.  I had to add an external memory device to store pictures.  (It was an analog media called film, but the analogy is pretty exact.)If a camera&#8217;s internal memory is the primary storage system, then the camera also has to come with a $1 USB cable (mini-A to A style?, 24 or 36 inches long).  And if you&#8217;re planning to take your camera on a real vacation (say a trip that&#8217;s important to your family) are you not going to want to take multiple flash cards with you to be sure you have plenty of space for all those photos the wife will want you to take of her?  8-)I don&#8217;t mean to suggest that your entire point is wrong.  And usually buying extra at the point of sale is financially the wrong move so leaving the store without the card can be sold off after the fact as a smart move.But I&#8217;d rather have the manufacturer toss in a 2 GB or 4 GB high speed flash card than have it built into the camera.PS: Name names.  Who made the camera?  What model is it?</p>
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